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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678141" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678141">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678161">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>Need your thinking brain again</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678213" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678213">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>this seems familiar, lemme check a couple things; I think it's related to opacity in the button's vicinity</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678296" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678296">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>to be more precise, that the way I initially did this for the prototype, now makes this opacity bug</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678444" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678444">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, I made this from scratch, no "bug" ;-)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678449" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678449">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> do you happen to have a URL I could play with in the browser directly (so that I don't have to update my dev environment; it's ok if you don't, it'll just be slower)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678468" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678468">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678551">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>is this the "rust blue" btw ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678554">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> <a href="http://69e9a319.ngrok.io/" target="_blank" title="http://69e9a319.ngrok.io/">http://69e9a319.ngrok.io/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678565" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678565">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>awesome thank you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678592" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678592">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>FWIW, I get a phishing warning on that; guess people are misusing ngrok :-(</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678599" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678599">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>don't type your password into the playground</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678617" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678617">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>too late I already input my creditcard to access the 1000 most popular crates</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678670" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678670">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's an idea. Pay by the crate.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678691">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Find open source crates near ANONYMOUS PROXY</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678704" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678704">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>VPNs hate him</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678758" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678758">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm thinking it's be awesome to have an indicator for "this isn't the default" in the menu <em>and</em> on each non-default item. That way you will click it and can figure out <em>why</em>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678820" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678820">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>so something that could be stylistically reused would be ++</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678846">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>good/interesting/tough idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678943" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678943">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Naturally. Was poking at <a href="https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/35307/how-to-visually-indicate-a-change-in-setting" target="_blank" title="https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/35307/how-to-visually-indicate-a-change-in-setting">https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/35307/how-to-visually-indicate-a-change-in-setting</a> for ideas</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678963">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>thus how I got to the blue w/outline</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128678969" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128678969">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh I remember the troubles I was having with this before, doing this outline quickly, in a pseudo element somehow always ended up on top of the ellipsis, even after fighting with z-index and all</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679066" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679066">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>ha, I cheated and just duplicated the SVG</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679072" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679072">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>which was pretty easy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679090" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679090">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>what's the css class you were using in that screenshot btw ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679263" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679263">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>No CSS; If you select 2015/2018 it switches the SVG to one that had an ellipse</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679292">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>I kind of like the rounded rect</p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>&lt;rect x=&quot;1&quot; y=&quot;3&quot; width=&quot;22&quot; height=&quot;18&quot; rx=&quot;3&quot; ry=&quot;3&quot; fill=&quot;#0044FF88&quot; stroke=&quot;#0044FFFF&quot; stroke-width=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;/rect&gt;
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679379" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679379">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is from the old prototype:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679411" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679411">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>between 0.8 and 1.0 opacity on the parent "header-button__left-icon" + #428bca fill (but no stroke)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679467" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679467">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>well then. great minds</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679499">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>in a sense, if it were used to highlight in the popover window that "Edition" has been changed, the Edition label would kind of look like the boolean toggles from the Config popover</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679593">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>true. Maybe just the bold text then...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679607" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679607">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe a similar small rounded rect before the Edition label could call back to it, in addition to a note/aside (like the wasm one, maybe blue if you wanted) explaining why it's changed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679658" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679658">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>or indeed just bold/blue like the hover on the other popovers' options</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679756" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679756">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if I should eschew the opacity on the icon CSS and move that to the SVG directly. Otherwise can't really get full control</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679768" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679768">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Since the icons are 50% opacity now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679792" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679792">(Jun 26 2018 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>you can move it to the svg's root css for sure here yeah, it'll make things easier</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679865" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679865">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="/user_uploads/4715/nq1WwzKSeFcY8oFMwkcm4IGN/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a> 50% of that color looks meh</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679883" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679883">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, zooming in does that whole brain trick where it looks yellow in the dots</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128679995" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128679995">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>0.8 at least I'd think yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680017" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680017">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>they do look yellow is this a new illusion :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680020" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680020">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:03)</a>:</h4>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680160" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680160">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>(+ we can/should have more padding on the sides, 0.25-0.5 ems I'd guess; 3-4px in non-shep units ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680315">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we used this rounded-rect as a hook "look at meee" <a href="/user_uploads/4715/CsGtxSDJAPaXkZAAbhjY_Gr7/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680549" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680549">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>You and your padding</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680560">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's the same padding as the config menu</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680576" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680576">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>Using the rect before the label means the label will bounce as people change options</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680612" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680612">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>could go wild... lemme try a jsbin</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680672" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680672">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>true; could go in the margin of after the label ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680709" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680709">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>(to be clearer I meant padding inside the rounded rect; just a bit more whitespace/bluespace around the ellipsis that's all, the rest of the button is as fine as last time I bothered you about it :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680879" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680879">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, padding of the button. Could be a wee bit tricky cause the box is butting right up against the icon size at the moment</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128680888" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128680888">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>but probably worth tweaking</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128681049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128681049">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least the bouncing of the Edition label could be animated into a slide, or not be that bad as the popover would still be static — but yeah, true, things would probably still bounce vertically as the aside is shown/hidden depending on the option</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128681561" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128681561">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> WDYT about a sliding background color? <a href="https://jsbin.com/ceyedapohu/2/edit?html,css,js,console,output" target="_blank" title="https://jsbin.com/ceyedapohu/2/edit?html,css,js,console,output">https://jsbin.com/ceyedapohu/2/edit?html,css,js,console,output</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128681741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128681741">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:38)</a>:</h4>
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<p>is as fine as last time</p>
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<p>subtle <span class="emoji emoji-1f609" title="wink">:wink:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128681749" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128681749">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>eg which would look this maybe ? <a href="/user_uploads/4715/1kBm1Vf5b-5Zif992cXZfj-p/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128681822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128681822">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah. Course the problem then would be switching from dark text to light text</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128681830" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128681830">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>indeed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128681842" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128681842">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe just a line on the bottom 10% of the label?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128681846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128681846">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems... unlikely to be good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128681909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128681909">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://css-tricks.com/reverse-text-color-mix-blend-mode/" target="_blank" title="https://css-tricks.com/reverse-text-color-mix-blend-mode/">https://css-tricks.com/reverse-text-color-mix-blend-mode/</a></p>



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<p>not as bad as I expected. WDYT?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128682238" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128682238">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>something feels, maybe a bit inconsistent with what we have so far ? at first I was apprehensive of the wide underlined empty space but now that I look at it, it's not as bad as I thought, like you said, maybe could work</p>



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<p>Yeah, there's other things that have "defaults" and we don't care about those.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128682314" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128682314">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm trying to see how a kind of icon to the right of the label would look</p>



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<p>like <a href="/user_uploads/4715/w8c9J1eCDC8bx56un8t8Phc7/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128682477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128682477">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>not bad. My only concern is "running out of space"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128682504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128682504">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>wonder about as part of the value, not label</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128682605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128682605">(Jun 26 2018 at 21:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>in a sense we already have "default", and in the value we'd have to use text or suffer styling issues (hello firefox), so à la "2018 *" "2018 [not default]" ?</p>



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<p>(note for other people, in the little chevron next to a stream, you can open a menu, to mute it ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128682908" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128682908">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, I meant <a href="user_uploads/4715/I0vq2w5vXUm4FssR43-c_KYr/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="user_uploads/4715/I0vq2w5vXUm4FssR43-c_KYr/pasted_image.png">pasted image</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128683022" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128683022">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh ok next to the value interesting <a href="/user_uploads/4715/5WneygR84PcCTmWOvW0zkClc/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128683033" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128683033">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>makes sense as we're calling attention to the value, could be nice!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128683043" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128683043">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>either on the left or right of the value, dunno.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128683055" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128683055">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128683058" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128683058">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>although it would move around the value a bit, which could be annoying for the on/off selector</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128683101" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128683101">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>the dropdown is probably fine for the little movement, since the whole dropdown appears/disappears</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128683137" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128683137">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="/user_uploads/4715/fN8alrfddY2-CRT8eQl2VbHF/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a> it could be taking a %age of the label's width, and the value wouldn't move I don't think ?</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128683197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128683197">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>or to the left of the note</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128683284" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128683284">(Jun 26 2018 at 22:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>and/or a colored left edge (but a bit more rounded than this screenshot, à la slack) <a href="/user_uploads/4715/Kz9dtrka6gtY5MyXl1pYCKqF/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128742876" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128742876">(Jun 27 2018 at 22:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span>  OK, <em>not</em> an illusion <a href="/user_uploads/4715/iDtR8OjBZECSKXjIN3G3gBAW/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a> </p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128742968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128742968">(Jun 27 2018 at 22:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we're _not_ crazy which seems like good news</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128743078" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128743078">(Jun 27 2018 at 22:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can help locate it while triaging NLL bootstrap if you got a link btw</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744292">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>haha, it's all me being dumb </p>
<p>I added a yellow fill, explicitly.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744296" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744296">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>(disappear)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744317" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744317">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><em>insert grandpa simpson old man yells at cloud meme but the old man is now me and the cloud has a kirby shape</em> :p (a kirby shep)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744457" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744457">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>But if you care to follow along at home... <a href="http://97623c3a.ngrok.io/" target="_blank" title="http://97623c3a.ngrok.io/">http://97623c3a.ngrok.io/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744556" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744556">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> thanks :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744560">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>but also: <a href="/user_uploads/4715/fxpBuOxDJvmyONB1iYzJK8il/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744671" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744671">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm. a @lqd self portrait</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744876" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744876">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>advanced options looking good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744879" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744879">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>nicely done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128744901" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128744901">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>also makes me notice how Open Sans semibold 'E' is way shorter than the regular E</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128745192" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128745192">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm thinking that the "non-default" UI is good enough for a first cut</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128745203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128745203">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> you gonna make me change the fonts?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128745220" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128745220">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>old man yells at font</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128745222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128745222">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>where do you even notice that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128745294" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128745294">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="/user_uploads/4715/7LCVP3owQC3Q5IPPeOt8rXkT/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a>  vs <a href="/user_uploads/4715/87MJ8-26GCXzaK9VkJck_1PH/pasted_image.png" target="_blank" title="pasted_image.png">pasted image</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128745315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128745315">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>For some value of "way"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128745322" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128745322">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>"non-default UI" meaning this advanced options popover ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128745375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128745375">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>(with only the Edition selector for now, I assume as well ?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128745480" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128745480">(Jun 27 2018 at 23:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>if so, agreed <span class="emoji emoji-1f4af" title="100">:100:</span> <span class="emoji emoji-1f6a2" title="ship">:ship:</span> it, <span class="emoji emoji-1f411" title="sheep">:sheep:</span> it, :shep: it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128752357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128752357">(Jun 28 2018 at 03:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>"non-default UI" -&gt; The UI aspects that indicate "hey, something is set in this menu". The colored icon and the bolded label.</p>
<p>Yeah, the backtrace and rustflags are hanging out from your original code. Leaving them in that sidebranch until I implement them.</p>
<p>Can't ship it <em>quite</em> yet. Got to figure out the URL story.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128835917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128835917">(Jun 29 2018 at 15:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> do you think it's silly to have {default,2015,2018}?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128835918" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128835918">(Jun 29 2018 at 15:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Should I just have 2015/2018</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836001" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836001">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess this is going to matter more during the transition period ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836017" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836017">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is, until the switch, we'll always be "default = 2015", and then "default = 2018"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836056" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836056">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and the little "blue indicator that something is up to no good" will switch its active/inactive rules as well)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836110">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>it does seem simpler to just have 2015/2018, and we handle the default when the transition period is over ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836197">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, and just have a commit at that point. Means that the playground will have a different default than cargo.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836332" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836332">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>why ? I'm not that familiar with the plans around the default edition value in cargo :/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836403">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, it would have a different default for a period of time until I updated the playground</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836422">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah that for sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836425" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836425">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>But AFAIK, <code>cargo new</code> will set <code>edition = "2018"</code> at some point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836488" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836488">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>could we ask cargo what its default edition is, the same way we ask its version?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128836499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128836499">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>(without hacking a <code>cargo new </code> &amp;&amp; grep 2018 )</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128837038" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128837038">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, we ask the version by running <code>rustc --version</code> and grepping the output ;-)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128837041" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128837041">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>:)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128837123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128837123">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could have a different default for a short while until the playground is updated; if it's a different default for months then ok maybe it's worth thinking about it; but if it's days, it doesn't seem like a crazy situation, not mentioning people will have the same issue locally until they rustup to stable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128837599" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128837599">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's a good analogy.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128838611" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128838611">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> of course, now I have to decide if I leave it a dropdown or make it the fancy 2-value choice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128838661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128838661">(Jun 29 2018 at 16:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>the 2-value choice seemed consistent with the rest WDYT ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128838805" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128838805">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, but then I have to change the code in 3 years :-)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128838851" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128838851">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>haha true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128839135" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128839135">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, want to play with the feel any? <a href="https://c3ac9cf9.ngrok.io" target="_blank" title="https://c3ac9cf9.ngrok.io">https://c3ac9cf9.ngrok.io</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128839245" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128839245">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh yeah a side effect is now that switching to stable can change the edition</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128839257" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128839257">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>which makes sense ofc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128839279" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128839279">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>did you want to keep your bold+color style on the Edition label when it is not the default (now that it's not using a dropdown anymore) ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128839894" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128839894">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, yeah. that's what i get for being lazy the first time around</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128840171" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128840171">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, fixed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128840477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128840477">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks good to me :) (I don't think we'll be able to do anything about the Advanced dialogs popover moving slightly to the right when the channel switches from Stable to the longer Nightly)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128840579" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128840579">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> <a href="https://c3ac9cf9.ngrok.io/?version=nightly&amp;mode=debug&amp;edition=2015" target="_blank" title="https://c3ac9cf9.ngrok.io/?version=nightly&amp;mode=debug&amp;edition=2015">https://c3ac9cf9.ngrok.io/?version=nightly&amp;mode=debug&amp;edition=2015</a> switch to 2018 and the Edition label won't have its styling applied ? but it definitely works in other cases I've tried</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128840690" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128840690">(Jun 29 2018 at 17:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>uhhh. I swear I saw it do that for a second, but now I cannot repro...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/128986973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#128986973">(Jul 02 2018 at 20:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> you already shipped it, nice :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035261">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>@lqd Yeah, I <span class="emoji emoji-2764" title="heart">:heart:</span>  those subtle releases. You are the first to mention it in ~ 4 days</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035323" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035323">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>all the share urls changed it was hard to miss for me even without visiting the playground :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035343" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035343">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>in any case: congrats for a smooth launch <span class="emoji emoji-1f389" title="tada">:tada:</span> + it's very cool</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035429" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035429">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, I kind of want to add my own "tracking pixel" to the share links because it was fun watching those show up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035570">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>you mean, in a different way than just checking the logs for "edition="?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035683">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean so I can do it for any given release. moral equivalent of <code>&amp;playground-release=SHA</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035687" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035687">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is silly, of course</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035785" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035785">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, yeah understood</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035797" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035797">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could handle the shortlink ourselves and save the playground rev at the same time as the code :3</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035914" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035914">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure what you mean by handle it ourselves — how are we not already doing so?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129035988" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129035988">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>we do, but I meant that we do not store additional information on them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129036003" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129036003">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>which you would have to do if one did shortlinks à la twitter, say</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129036021" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129036021">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could add it to the gist for sure tho</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129036115" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129036115">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>and in a number of ways :) in the "Code shared from the Rust Playground" comment, in the filename, in another file in the gist (like the idea of saving the cargo.toml there) etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129036124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129036124">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>you were reading in Discord, eh? ;-)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129036131" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129036131">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>sometimes :3</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129036203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129036203">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>in a more traditional webapp you could store it in the database and be done with it; here it would be harder for us to store anything on GH which we would want to query later I presume</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129036228" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129036228">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>not harder harder, just have to be more cautious. It's a write-once DB ;-)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129036293" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129036293">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>storing the rev in the "code shared" seems easy to do; and I wonder if we can get gists in bulk from GH, to do the stat you want</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129036411" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129036411">(Jul 03 2018 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>The thing about the rev is that really there should only ever be a small number. The caching should expire after 24h, so it's up to how many releases are pushed in that window.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129711243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129711243">(Jul 15 2018 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>@lqd do you recall where you got the SVGs for the playground? I'm looking to see if there's a clipboard one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129712918" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129712918">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> yeah I think from the Material Design site <a href="https://material.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline" target="_blank" title="https://material.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline">https://material.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline</a> (btw <a href="https://play.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank" title="https://play.rust-lang.org/">https://play.rust-lang.org/</a> 502s :/)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713161">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Not 502ing for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713165" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713165">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, wait, just browser cache</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713403">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah jeez</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713408">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>for about an hour</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713548" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713548">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>Should be back; checking the cause</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713616">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>Jul 15 18:04:29 ip-172-30-0-53 kernel: [1312205.811843] nginx invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x24201ca, order=0, oom_score_adj=0
Jul 15 18:04:29 ip-172-30-0-53 kernel: [1312205.812250] Out of memory: Kill process 5008 (ui) score 865 or sacrifice child
Jul 15 18:04:29 ip-172-30-0-53 kernel: [1312205.822342] Killed process 13376 (docker) total-vm:174904kB, anon-rss:6228kB, file-rss:552kB
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713620" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713620">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmmmmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713660" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713660">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, doh:</p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>Jul 15 19:23:06 ip-172-30-0-53 CRON[15702]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713804">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>[ pid ]   uid  tgid total_vm      rss nr_ptes nr_pmds swapents oom_score_adj name
[  379]     0   379    12491     3683      29       3      420             0 systemd-journal
[  432]     0   432    25742       73      17       3       28             0 lvmetad
[  464]     0   464    10649      362      23       3       11         -1000 systemd-udevd
[  588]   100   588    25081      318      19       3       44             0 systemd-timesyn
[  956]     0   956     4030      239      13       3      152             0 dhclient
[ 1160]     0  1160    68622      824      36       3      205             0 accounts-daemon
[ 1161]     0  1161   192433    14852     116       5     2938          -500 dockerd
[ 1164]     0  1164     7154      132      18       3        1             0 systemd-logind
[ 1165]   104  1165    65157      878      29       4       74             0 rsyslogd
[ 1179]     0  1179     1099      302       8       4        8             0 acpid
[ 1182]     0  1182     6511      341      17       3        8             0 atd
[ 1186]     0  1186     6932      440      19       3       12             0 cron
[ 1190]   107  1190    10754      324      26       3        0          -900 dbus-daemon
[ 1195]     0  1195     1305       14       8       3       15             0 iscsid
[ 1196]     0  1196     1430      877       9       3        0           -17 iscsid
[ 1227]     0  1227    16377      517      36       3        5         -1000 sshd
[ 1229]     0  1229    76936     2885      37       5      328          -900 snapd
[ 1231]     0  1231   208104      988      35       4        0             0 lxcfs
[ 1251]     0  1251     3343      209      11       3       10             0 mdadm
[ 1255]     0  1255    31464      534      50       3       88             0 nginx
[ 1266]     0  1266    69277      259      38       3        6             0 polkitd
[ 1332]     0  1332     4868      426      14       3        0             0 irqbalance
[ 1344]     0  1344     3664      349      12       3       25             0 agetty
[ 1354]     0  1354     3618      366      12       3       36             0 agetty
[ 1369]     0  1369   241834     5665      65       6      809          -500 docker-containe
[ 5008]     0  5008  2207936  1795292    4034      12   256849             0 ui
[13671]    33 13671    31612      802      48       3       72             0 nginx
[13672]    33 13672    31612      883      48       3       72             0 nginx
[13457]     0 13457     1833      130       8       5        0          -999 docker-containe
[13459]     0 13459     1897      128       8       5        0          -999 docker-containe
[13460]     0 13460     1833      122       8       5        0          -999 docker-containe
[13478]     0 13478    48656     1753      25       5        0          -999 docker-runc
[13482]     0 13482    32624     1307      25       5        0          -999 docker-runc
[13492]     0 13492    32272     1306      24       5        0          -999 docker-runc
[13518]     0 13518    11462     1052      19       5        0             0 runc:[2:INIT]
[13548]     0 13548    11462     1066      20       5        0             0 runc:[2:INIT]
[13560]     0 13560    33912     4907      59       6        0          -999 exe
[13563]     0 13563    11462     1056      20       6        0             0 runc:[2:INIT]
[13567]     0 13567    33912     4910      60       5        0          -999 exe
[13568]     0 13568    34264     5038      59       5        0          -999 exe
[13582]     0 13582    24130     2193      32       3        0          -500 exe
[13583]     0 13583    24130     2622      33       3        0          -500 exe
[13584]     0 13584    24130     2340      31       4        0          -500 exe
[13609]     0 13609    10649      559      21       3       11             0 systemd-udevd
[13610]     0 13610    10649      400      21       3       11             0 systemd-udevd
[13611]     0 13611    10649      527      21       3       11             0 systemd-udevd
[13612]     0 13612    10649      369      21       3       11             0 systemd-udevd
[13613]     0 13613    10649      369      21       3       11             0 systemd-udevd
[13614]     0 13614    10649      213      21       3       11             0 systemd-udevd
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129713845" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129713845">(Jul 15 2018 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if someone tried to do the equivalent of <code>cat /dev/urandom</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129714774" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129714774">(Jul 15 2018 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> do you think you could help me identify which icons are which?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129714881" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129714881">(Jul 15 2018 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>And did we make changes to the originals?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129715009" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129715009">(Jul 15 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Tonight it’s gonna be hard but you can ask questions and I’ll answer in the morning — I made no changes, and they should be « cog » ,« chevron » or similar, « help », I think. You can search on this site btw, it’s helpful sometimes when there are many icons</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129715065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129715065">(Jul 15 2018 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>No worries on time. I was using the browser's control-f find, is that what you mean?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129715069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129715069">(Jul 15 2018 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>The icons I'm downloading have like all 5 variants in them, which is odd</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129716630" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129716630">(Jul 15 2018 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>IIRC there is a search field on the left — but this all changed recently after we updated the playground so I might not be up to speed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129717245" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129717245">(Jul 15 2018 at 21:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> from right to left "help_outline", "keyboard_arrow_down", "settings", "more_horiz" I think and finally "play_arrow"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129717415" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129717415">(Jul 15 2018 at 21:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Neat, thank you!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/129717462" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#129717462">(Jul 15 2018 at 21:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Working on: <a href="/user_uploads/4715/_NDvqgpxGygxrSXQtmXPlI4e/copy.gif" target="_blank" title="copy.gif">copy.gif</a></p>
<div class="message_inline_image"><a href="/user_uploads/4715/_NDvqgpxGygxrSXQtmXPlI4e/copy.gif" target="_blank" title="copy.gif"><img src="/user_uploads/4715/_NDvqgpxGygxrSXQtmXPlI4e/copy.gif"></a></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/130784173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#130784173">(Aug 02 2018 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Btw I love that copy button so much, thanks :D &lt;3</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/130784212" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#130784212">(Aug 02 2018 at 15:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh yea, recent playpen upgrades are totally rad. I already used a bunch of them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/130786873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#130786873">(Aug 02 2018 at 16:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>a couple "title" tooltips would be super nice (sorry Jake I'm abroad, I can do a PR in a couple weeks though)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/130856932" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#130856932">(Aug 03 2018 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>a couple "title" tooltips would be super nice</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span>  On which?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/130857019" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#130857019">(Aug 03 2018 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>on the icon buttons copying the urls</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/130857031" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#130857031">(Aug 03 2018 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>as feedforward to know what clicking them will do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131139303" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131139303">(Aug 08 2018 at 23:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Alright, what are good one-word verbs for "produce {LLVM IR, MIR, WebAssembly} output"? /cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131139305" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131139305">(Aug 08 2018 at 23:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>For example, making assembly is "assemble"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131139310" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131139310">(Aug 08 2018 at 23:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>And there's Build / Run / Test already</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131140140" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Keith Yeung <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131140140">(Aug 09 2018 at 00:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>if you ask <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> they'll reply you with <span class="emoji emoji-1f438" title="frog">:frog:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131151602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Lew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131151602">(Aug 09 2018 at 05:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>"compile"?   <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131156446" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131156446">(Aug 09 2018 at 07:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span>  TBH I think this is also "Build"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131156448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131156448">(Aug 09 2018 at 07:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is "produce {binary, assembly, LLVM, MIR, wasm} output"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131157345" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131157345">(Aug 09 2018 at 08:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm used to "emit" but that might be because of the flag</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131157476" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131157476">(Aug 09 2018 at 08:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>"Build" and "compile to" also make a lot of sense indeed, especially sInce  in other languages where they probably wouldn't say "emit"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131157477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131157477">(Aug 09 2018 at 08:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>For MIR, you could use “Launch” ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131157480" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131157480">(Aug 09 2018 at 08:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="emoji emoji-1f680" title="rocket">:rocket:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131170243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131170243">(Aug 09 2018 at 12:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120791">@RalfJ</span> but if the button changes to "build" for 3/4 different actions, it's not <em>super</em> useful to tell what's going on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131170654" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131170654">(Aug 09 2018 at 13:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> I do like the phrasing, but would worry people would think it would run the MIR e.g. miri</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131170862" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131170862">(Aug 09 2018 at 13:09)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>For example, making assembly is "assemble"</p>
</blockquote>
<p>"Assemble" is ASM → Binary, but playground is doing Rust → ASM. I think "Compile" is more appriopriate.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131171408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131171408">(Aug 09 2018 at 13:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116155">@Jake Goulding</span> true. so were you asking for 4 different verbs?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131171412" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131171412">(Aug 09 2018 at 13:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we're talking about this for the "redo what you just did" use case, at the time I was thinking the button label would just have what it emits: 1) you choose the MIR option in the popover, 2) then the main button label switches to MIR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131171434" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131171434">(Aug 09 2018 at 13:19)</a>:</h4>
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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> I do like the phrasing, but would worry people would think it would run the MIR e.g. miri</p>
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<p>well you could go super obtuse and use the verb "orbit" for generating MIR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131171555" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131171555">(Aug 09 2018 at 13:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>(because that is a rather "advanced" playground use case where users would know that it's about the produced artefacts, and where the verb didn't seem 100% necessary; but if we absolutely need one, something like "emit MIR" also has the advantage of being short)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131171674" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131171674">(Aug 09 2018 at 13:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>if "Build" is preferred for the artefacts actions, I guess building libs can also switch to "Check" to free up "Build"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131174188" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131174188">(Aug 09 2018 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> if the analogue is <code>cargo check</code> vs <code>cargo build</code>, note that <code>cargo check</code> won't invoke LLVM so e.g. <code>cargo check</code> won't catch errors like this:</p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><span class="cp">#![feature(asm)]</span><span class="w"></span>
<span class="cp">#![crate_type = </span><span class="s">&quot;lib&quot;</span><span class="cp">]</span><span class="w"></span>
<span class="k">pub</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="k">unsafe</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="k">fn</span> <span class="nf">foo</span><span class="p">()</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="p">{</span><span class="w"></span>
<span class="w">    </span><span class="n">asm</span><span class="o">!</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="s">&quot;asdadasdasdas&quot;</span><span class="p">);</span><span class="w"></span>
<span class="p">}</span><span class="w"></span>
</pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131174242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131174242">(Aug 09 2018 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>it could be just labeling it doesn't have to be "cargo check"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131174262" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131174262">(Aug 09 2018 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is just the playground UI rather than its backend IIUC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131174359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131174359">(Aug 09 2018 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>i understand, a concern would be <code>check</code> and <code>cargo check</code> would be subtly different (the playground <code>check</code> being bit stricter)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131175504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131175504">(Aug 09 2018 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>understood, diverging the meaning of Check would be a concern indeed.  “emit” for the MIR/etc actions might then be a good candidate. Or “show MIR” or “MIR”</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131175585" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131175585">(Aug 09 2018 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I’m going through hell typing on the Zulip mobile app :) randomly capitalizing or switching case)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131175613" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131175613">(Aug 09 2018 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Or “show MIR” or “MIR”</p>
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<p>agreed. if we don't need a single verb for all actions, explicitly saying ASM / LLVM / MIR / WASM feels better</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131178122" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131178122">(Aug 09 2018 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>And I like "show"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131178173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131178173">(Aug 09 2018 at 15:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, it doesn't <em>have</em> to be one word, but it has to be short</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131178253" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131178253">(Aug 09 2018 at 15:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd probably avoid "check" because some people have requested an actual check (although I'm not clear on the benefit yet)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131178291" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131178291">(Aug 09 2018 at 15:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Semirelated: it's annoying that <code>cargo build</code> doesn't generate artifacts that <code>cargo check</code> can use</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131178313" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131178313">(Aug 09 2018 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>We totally could, too. Maybe something to bring up.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131178547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131178547">(Aug 09 2018 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/3501" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/3501">https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/3501</a> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131179907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131179907">(Aug 09 2018 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>And if someone adds the "Run WASM", that's a good distinction</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard/near/131181853" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/colors-are-hard.html#131181853">(Aug 09 2018 at 16:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>“Show” has a bit of precedent in that the existing help text is already “build and show MIR”</p>



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